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	<title>Comments on: Why link to index.php?</title>
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	<description>web design, standards, all that stuff</description>
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		<title>By: MaThIbUs</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>MaThIbUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;David House:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;m not claiming we should all make our sites &lt;a href=&quot;http://no-www.org/faq.php?q=class_C&quot; title=&quot;&quot;&gt;class C&lt;/a&gt;, &#039;cause that would just be overkill. I was promoting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathibus.com/archives/2004/06/08/redirects/&quot; title=&quot;No More www. in Your URI&quot;&gt;silent redirection to the non-&lt;code&gt;www.&lt;/code&gt; URI&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>David House:</strong> I&#8217;m not claiming we should all make our sites <a href="http://no-www.org/faq.php?q=class_C" title="">class C</a>, &#8217;cause that would just be overkill. I was promoting the <a href="http://mathibus.com/archives/2004/06/08/redirects/" title="No More www. in Your URI">silent redirection to the non-<code>www.</code> URI</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David House</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>David House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the www thing: 

People are going to type both with and without the www. to get to your site, because without the www. is quicker except for users that know the Ctrl+Enter shortcut. Hence, following the path of least surprise, both should be available and lead to your site. I&#039;d redirect people toward the version without the www. myself, just for redundancy reasons. But the point is we can&#039;t usably support only one version of our site, so Google will inevitably index both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the www thing: </p>
<p>People are going to type both with and without the www. to get to your site, because without the www. is quicker except for users that know the Ctrl+Enter shortcut. Hence, following the path of least surprise, both should be available and lead to your site. I&#8217;d redirect people toward the version without the www. myself, just for redundancy reasons. But the point is we can&#8217;t usably support only one version of our site, so Google will inevitably index both.</p>
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		<title>By: djn</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>djn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the time it&#039;s not people linking to index.whatever, it&#039;s their authoring software that &quot;knows better&quot;. Also, it&#039;s hard to expect much attention for link consistency somewhere in the future from people who don&#039;t care if their pages are broken in another browser (or platform, or resolution) now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the time it&#8217;s not people linking to index.whatever, it&#8217;s their authoring software that &#8220;knows better&#8221;. Also, it&#8217;s hard to expect much attention for link consistency somewhere in the future from people who don&#8217;t care if their pages are broken in another browser (or platform, or resolution) now.</p>
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		<title>By: MaThIbUs</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>MaThIbUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve written &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathibus.com/archives/2004/06/08/redirects/&quot; title=&quot;No More www. in Your URI&quot;&gt;a post about &lt;code&gt;www.&lt;/code&gt;-less URIs&lt;/a&gt; a couple of months ago, too. And you&#039;re right --- &lt;code&gt;index.php&lt;/code&gt; indeed is cruft. Even in post permalinks on blogs who don&#039;t use the fancy &lt;code&gt;.htaccess&lt;/code&gt; option (why use &lt;code&gt;/index.php?p=xxx&lt;/code&gt; when &lt;code&gt;/?p=xxx&lt;/code&gt; works just as well?).

People who use your &lt;code&gt;.htaccess&lt;/code&gt; code (or mine) can use &lt;a href=&quot;http://effuse.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16&quot; title=&quot;Relative Linking rocks, everyone should use it&quot;&gt;relative linking&lt;/a&gt; without being afraid of Google double-caching their site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://mathibus.com/archives/2004/06/08/redirects/" title="No More www. in Your URI">a post about <code>www.</code>-less URIs</a> a couple of months ago, too. And you&#8217;re right &#8212; <code>index.php</code> indeed is cruft. Even in post permalinks on blogs who don&#8217;t use the fancy <code>.htaccess</code> option (why use <code>/index.php?p=xxx</code> when <code>/?p=xxx</code> works just as well?).</p>
<p>People who use your <code>.htaccess</code> code (or mine) can use <a href="http://effuse.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16" title="Relative Linking rocks, everyone should use it">relative linking</a> without being afraid of Google double-caching their site.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Connolley</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Connolley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my website /about and /about/ both resolve to about.htm. If you believe that is causing &lt;em&gt;problems&lt;/em&gt; on my web-server you need to check the manual.

Also the difference between /images and /images/ is minimal. I know that I have never had issue with it. May I also point out that I do not present directory structures to visitors so there is no reason to worry either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my website /about and /about/ both resolve to about.htm. If you believe that is causing <em>problems</em> on my web-server you need to check the manual.</p>
<p>Also the difference between /images and /images/ is minimal. I know that I have never had issue with it. May I also point out that I do not present directory structures to visitors so there is no reason to worry either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, gotcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, gotcha.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was &lt;i&gt;just to show&lt;/i&gt; you that Google has indexed both. Normal web users won&#039;t do that search, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was <i>just to show</i> you that Google has indexed both. Normal web users won&#8217;t do that search, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that search really relevant? How many people (normal web users) know to search using those commands? Even if you search for just &quot;mezzoblue&quot;, the top result google comes back with uses www.mezzoblue.com as the url.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that search really relevant? How many people (normal web users) know to search using those commands? Even if you search for just &#8220;mezzoblue&#8221;, the top result google comes back with uses <a href="http://www.mezzoblue.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mezzoblue.com</a> as the url.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nathan:
I have to admit that I don&#039;t know if e.g. Google handles the two things as completely different. Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:mezzoblue.com+site:mezzoblue.com&amp;num=100&amp;filter=0&quot;&gt;this Google search&lt;/a&gt;.
What would you say? The result with www has (according to &lt;a  href=&quot;http://www.quirk.co.za/searchstatus/&quot;&gt;this nice Firefox extension&lt;/a&gt;) a PR of 7, the non-www result a PR of 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nathan:<br />
I have to admit that I don&#8217;t know if e.g. Google handles the two things as completely different. Check <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:mezzoblue.com+site:mezzoblue.com&#038;num=100&#038;filter=0">this Google search</a>.<br />
What would you say? The result with www has (according to <a href="http://www.quirk.co.za/searchstatus/">this nice Firefox extension</a>) a PR of 7, the non-www result a PR of 6.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.julianbez.com/blog/2004/10/13/why-link-to-indexphp/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I am thinking more of the mod-rewrite, using /about instead of about.php...

That is very possible. It has been a long week already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I am thinking more of the mod-rewrite, using /about instead of about.php&#8230;</p>
<p>That is very possible. It has been a long week already.</p>
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